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The anointed one is a human being, a descendant from David haMelech. G-d promised David haMelech that he (or his descendant) will be Mashiach.

As you know the torah cannot be learned without torah shebaal peh (the oral torah) because the Torah was not written in a simple way.

Now, without even looking at the oral torah on the verses that you cite above... I can tell you that I do not see a contradiction between Hashem being the redeemer and the Mashiach being the redeemer because the Mashiach receives his ability to redeem from Hashem.

Originally posted by Javier Shalom Aaron I think while one become more righteous and strongly on it closer will come The Messiah. It depends on our merit and efforts to it as many Rabbis has said -I read something about the coming of the redemption in chabad.org-. I think to get a spiritual experience is very good to practice hitbodedus, being a "sensible person", listen music, you know.

shalom javier, in chabad it is taught that the redemption will come through ahavat chinam.  the rebbe mhm shlita also said that simcha in its purity will bring the geulah - ki tetzeh 5748. in another sicha - purim 1987(?) - the rebbe said that spreading sheva mitzoth bnai noah will bring the geulah etc.  on parshas chayei sarah 5752 the rebbe said that kabbalos pnei moshiach tzidkeinu is the last shlichus to bring the geulah as well etc. see also shoftim 5751 as well etc.  in breslov rabbi brody teaches that emuna will bring the geulah.  chazal said that the redemption will come because of the merits of the righteous women of our generation etc.  in nanach, we also believe that nanach will also be an important factor here etc.  be well.

Originally posted by ahuvab When a person goes through difficult times, they may either decide there is no G-d (chas veShalom) or decide there must be more to life than suffering for nothing and then begin searching for G-d.   A jew has a natural belief in G-d. It is in his genes from Avraham Avinu. And whilst a non-jew easily gets angry with G-d, a jew usually accepts the difficulties with humility, knowing that G-d knows what He is doing and that one doesn't deserve any better anyway. In fact, according to our sins we should basically not be alive! Only in Hashem's kindness, He waits till we wake up and make teshuva.

shalom ahuva, i once heard a rabbi from kibbutz yavneh named meshulam say that there is a fine line between hate and love etc.

Shalom Aaron.

About your question, honestly I have doubts about it. According to Rambam does not fit some requirements; The Temple, The Sahnedrim -imho-
But about my personal opinion I think and I believe honestly each righteous people has a deeper and inner ability to bring and make able The Coming of Messiah although it be a small step ...because the coming is from last small stept not a jumping, like was the creation or establisment of the Yisrael State.

It is more on applying The "Torah Spirit" which means "G-d´s Spirit" than any individual, but I have to realize that in The Torah it is said will be a descendants from David´s Dinasty -I do not know if rebbe mhm shlita of chabad come from David´s Dinasty-.

If The Messiah is The Annointed One who will apply The Torah then all Yisrael is like a Messiah -each one in his generation; step by step-.

I honestly think / believe The Redeemer is G-d and The Messiah or Anointed One The Torah itself given to mankind and specially to all Yisrael. We must to turn back to G-d through The Torah and in the middle way in the intersection of the "road" G-d will met us, demonstrated by fullfiment of G-d´s Spirit, Torah and Righteousness in this world.

Indeed, The Torah is Crowned ... amazing!

Imho, flowers have shown and proved its strongest soul and will againts all adversities, looking for light through the forest and growing up with all its strength in the searching of light, the sun. Just take a look at your green at home or into any forest. They just faith and fight and they do not have in its languague the surrender...

Could be said, The Tazadik is like the seed of a flower in the low worlds, in the soil of this world proving their will and soul and strenght against all wicked people and corrupters.
While "blind people" looks for G-d The Tzadik "bring" G-d here, do not you think so?

Edited by Javier - 10 December 2009 at 23:59

Originally posted by Javier Today I am glad because I have got understanding over a "moral vicious" on which right now I am discerning on how to evitate it, probably by submiting myself to Gevurah -restriction of bad ideas or thoughs-. But at this point I have to say I am glad becasue it has come while one must remember the victory of G-dness over badness represented by Chanukah!!!, because it has brought me light. Could be said is it an act of Tikkun or a message from G-d or even is Chanukah a period to clean our sins?

the chazal said a man without a woman has no blessing, no joy, no income etc.  maybe this could be a factor if you were referring to me, then again i am probably just being paranoid etc.

I learned today in Torah 36 that the torah is sam hamavet for the person who learns it and doesn't have tikun habrit.

Edited by ahuvab - 17 December 2009 at 08:48

Torah 36 teaches that only simple (good)  light comes from Above. But then it takes the shape of the vessel it enters when it comes down to our world (just as water takes the shape of the kli you put it in) .

Edited by ahuvab - 17 December 2009 at 09:02

Javier, I'm not sure I understand your question. It seems to me that you understand 'tikun habrit' to mean having a brit mila. So to clarify...

Edited by ahuvab - 20 December 2009 at 01:40